3508399 CONTROL & MONITOR GP-CAB Caterpillar parts
336E, 336E L, 336E LN, 349E, 349E L, 349E L VG
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Alternative (cross code) number:
CA3508399
350-8399
3508399
CA3508399
350-8399
3508399
EXCAVATOR, MOBILE HYD POWER UNIT,
Compatible equipment models: 3508399:
Information:
Caterpillar EnginesWe have received a number of inquiries from dealers and field representatives about the use of clamp-on timing indicators on Caterpillar diesel engines. We have evaluated two competitive units and compared their operation to the Caterpillar 6V50 Engine Timing Indicator, part of the 6V3100 Timing Indicator Group. The results of our tests indicate that clamp-on timing units operate erratically, and, at best, their readings are quite inaccurate when compared to the Caterpillar 6V3100 Timing Indicator Group.
Some of the reasons for this are:
1. The 6V7910 Injection Transducer can determine the point of injection within .2° by measuring the actual pressure inside the fuel line (something that clamp-on units cannot do).2. All diesel engines have a fixed time delay from the time the fuel leaves the fuel injection pump until it reaches the fuel injection nozzle. This fuel line timing delay can vary between 6° and 11° and is dependent on line dynamics such as length, diameter, material, pressure and engine RPM. These factors must be taken into account when making timing measurements. This delay is automatically taken into account in the circuitry of the Engine Timing Indicator when the 6V7910 Injection Transducer is correctly installed at the injection pump. Published timing specifications for Caterpillar engines are based on reading the timing at the injection pump. In the clamp-on timing units that we tested, the measured point of injection varied depending on where the pickup was fastened to the fuel line, the clamping force, the RPM of the engine, the residual fuel line pressure, and the fuel line pressure at which the pickup sensed injection. These factors, as well as the delay due to the fuel line length, were not taken into account by the unit and had to be compensated for by an adjustable offset. This means that only relative timing and not absolute readings could be obtained.
3. Clamp-on timing unit readings are very susceptible to normal fuel line vibration and shock produced by both the engine and high pressure fuel injection pumps. This interference caused the timing readings to be erratic. Using Clamp-on Pickups For RPM Measurements
The 6V2100 Multitach uses a clamp-on 6V6114 Fuel Line Pickup to count the number of fuel pulses per minute to determine RPM. For this type of operation, the clamp-on pickup is well suited because the number of fuel pulses per minute is all that is required to calculate engine speed.
The clamp-on pickup for the 6V2100 Multitach was designed so that it could not be used on the 6V50 Timing Indicator in place of the 6V7910 Injection Transducer.
Some of the reasons for this are:
1. The 6V7910 Injection Transducer can determine the point of injection within .2° by measuring the actual pressure inside the fuel line (something that clamp-on units cannot do).2. All diesel engines have a fixed time delay from the time the fuel leaves the fuel injection pump until it reaches the fuel injection nozzle. This fuel line timing delay can vary between 6° and 11° and is dependent on line dynamics such as length, diameter, material, pressure and engine RPM. These factors must be taken into account when making timing measurements. This delay is automatically taken into account in the circuitry of the Engine Timing Indicator when the 6V7910 Injection Transducer is correctly installed at the injection pump. Published timing specifications for Caterpillar engines are based on reading the timing at the injection pump. In the clamp-on timing units that we tested, the measured point of injection varied depending on where the pickup was fastened to the fuel line, the clamping force, the RPM of the engine, the residual fuel line pressure, and the fuel line pressure at which the pickup sensed injection. These factors, as well as the delay due to the fuel line length, were not taken into account by the unit and had to be compensated for by an adjustable offset. This means that only relative timing and not absolute readings could be obtained.
3. Clamp-on timing unit readings are very susceptible to normal fuel line vibration and shock produced by both the engine and high pressure fuel injection pumps. This interference caused the timing readings to be erratic. Using Clamp-on Pickups For RPM Measurements
The 6V2100 Multitach uses a clamp-on 6V6114 Fuel Line Pickup to count the number of fuel pulses per minute to determine RPM. For this type of operation, the clamp-on pickup is well suited because the number of fuel pulses per minute is all that is required to calculate engine speed.
The clamp-on pickup for the 6V2100 Multitach was designed so that it could not be used on the 6V50 Timing Indicator in place of the 6V7910 Injection Transducer.
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CONTROL & MONITOR GP-CAB
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Caterpillar parts catalog:
Parts control Caterpillar catalog:
1709497
CONTROL GP-PILOT OPERATED HYD
307C, 308C, 311C, 311D LRR, 311F LRR, 312C, 312C L, 312D, 312D L, 312D2, 312D2 GC, 312D2 L, 312E, 312E L, 313D, 313D2, 313D2 LGP, 314C, 314D CR, 314D LCR, 314E CR, 314E LCR, 315C, 315D L, 316E L, 318C...
307C, 308C, 311C, 311D LRR, 311F LRR, 312C, 312C L, 312D, 312D L, 312D2, 312D2 GC, 312D2 L, 312E, 312E L, 313D, 313D2, 313D2 LGP, 314C, 314D CR, 314D LCR, 314E CR, 314E LCR, 315C, 315D L, 316E L, 318C...
3237826
CONTROL AR-AUXILIARY
349E, 349E L, 349E L VG
349E, 349E L, 349E L VG
3194469
CONTROL & MTG GP-COMMUNICATION
312E, 312E L, 316E L, 318E L, 320E L, 320E LRR, 324E L, 324E LN, 329E, 329E L, 329E LN, 336E L, 336E LH, 336E LN, 336F L, 349E, 349E L, 349E L VG, 349F L, 374F L, 390F L
312E, 312E L, 316E L, 318E L, 320E L, 320E LRR, 324E L, 324E LN, 329E, 329E L, 329E LN, 336E L, 336E LH, 336E LN, 336F L, 349E, 349E L, 349E L VG, 349F L, 374F L, 390F L
3769642
CONTROL AR-AUXILIARY
336E L, 336E LN
336E L, 336E LN
3329673
CONTROL AR-COUPLER
349E L VG
349E L VG
3835089
CONTROL AR-COUPLER
336E L
336E L
3237631
CONTROL GP-HYDRAULIC PEDAL
312E, 316E L, 318E L, 320E, 320E LN, 320E LRR, 320E RR, 323E L, 324E, 324E LN, 329E, 336E, 336E HVG, 349E L HVG
312E, 316E L, 318E L, 320E, 320E LN, 320E LRR, 320E RR, 323E L, 324E, 324E LN, 329E, 336E, 336E HVG, 349E L HVG
8L4444
CONTROL GP-GOVERNOR
3304, 3306, D343, D346, D348, D349, D379, D379A, D398, D398A, D399, G3306, G343, G379, G398, G399
3304, 3306, D343, D346, D348, D349, D379, D379A, D398, D398A, D399, G3306, G343, G379, G398, G399
2020430
CONTROL GP-SERVICE BRAKE
924G, 924GZ, 924H, 924HZ, 928H, 928HZ, 930G, IT28G
924G, 924GZ, 924H, 924HZ, 928H, 928HZ, 930G, IT28G
3431740
CONTROL GP-WINCH
D3K2 LGP, D4K2 XL, D5K2 XL
D3K2 LGP, D4K2 XL, D5K2 XL
1564623
CONTROL & MTG GP-IMPLEMENT
621G, 623G, 627G, 631G, 637G
621G, 623G, 627G, 631G, 637G
2062711
CONTROL GP-ENGINE ELECTRONIC
3508, 3508B, 3508C, 3512, 3512B, 3512C, 3516, 3516B, 3516C, 3606, 3608, 3612, 3616, 785D, 793D, 994F, 994H, C280-12, C280-16, C280-6, C280-8, G3516, PM3508, PM3512, PM3516, PP3516, SPF343C, TH48-E80, ...
3508, 3508B, 3508C, 3512, 3512B, 3512C, 3516, 3516B, 3516C, 3606, 3608, 3612, 3616, 785D, 793D, 994F, 994H, C280-12, C280-16, C280-6, C280-8, G3516, PM3508, PM3512, PM3516, PP3516, SPF343C, TH48-E80, ...
1601758
CONTROL GP-UNPROGRAMMED
120H, 120H NA, 12H NA, 135H NA, 140H NA, 143H, 160H NA, 163H NA, 572R, 854G, 950G, 962G, 966G, 972G, 980G, 992G, 994, 994D, D10R, D11R, D5M, D6M, D6R, D7R
120H, 120H NA, 12H NA, 135H NA, 140H NA, 143H, 160H NA, 163H NA, 572R, 854G, 950G, 962G, 966G, 972G, 980G, 992G, 994, 994D, D10R, D11R, D5M, D6M, D6R, D7R
1538733
CONTROL & MTG GP-JOYSTICK
312C, 315C, 318C, 319C, 320C, 320C FM, 321C, 322C, 325C, 330C L
312C, 315C, 318C, 319C, 320C, 320C FM, 321C, 322C, 325C, 330C L
7W6542
CONTROL GP-GOVERNOR
3306, 3406, 3406B, 3406C, 3408, 3408C, 3412, 3412C
3306, 3406, 3406B, 3406C, 3408, 3408C, 3412, 3412C
2W3469
CONTROL GP-GOVERNOR
3406B, 3406C
3406B, 3406C
1573200
CONTROL GP-IMPLEMENT
312C, 315C, 318C, 319C, 320C, 320C FM, 321C, 322C, 325C, 330C, 330C L, 345C, 345C L
312C, 315C, 318C, 319C, 320C, 320C FM, 321C, 322C, 325C, 330C, 330C L, 345C, 345C L
1915208
CONTROL & MTG GP-ENGINE ELEK
C-15, C-16, C18, MTC835
C-15, C-16, C18, MTC835